Curse

*Darcy* · Oct 06, 2010, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by Mister_Smiley

Also what i don't get is why they added them at all, i mean people wanted the BMP weapons added and they bitch a lot more it seams then these weapons, but they where never added.

Because anyone who completes WiK can obtain the Oppressor weapons, but to get the BMP ones you would need to purchase the content with real life money. BIG, BIG difference to people who don't have that cash to spare.

bhavv · Oct 06, 2010, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Why cant they add deldrimor weapons?

Grind requirements and costs aside, I hate the tormented / destoyer / oppressor skins and wouldnt want to waste so much time getting weapons that I find ugly.

Nerel · Oct 06, 2010, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Why do I feel that, like most things Anet undertakes, they have no idea how the reward system for GW2/HoM was going to pan out, and they're just making it up as they go? Is this just more of the same lack of foresight that led to almost all of GW1's problems?

More stuff in HoM? Not want!

bhavv · Oct 06, 2010, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Nerel

More stuff in HoM? Not want!

IMO the option to put more weapons in HoM is better than only being able to use a couple of ugly skins, but it is still the only monument that I cant be bothered with filling.

I'll have all my others filled once I complete EOTN on my last PVE toon to get enough points for monument armor, but Im not grinding any of the HoM weapons because they all look ugly to me.

Eragon Zarroc · Oct 07, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01

annoying >_< had valor filled up, now have to go work on 11 more weps *sigh*

Konig Des Todes · Oct 07, 2010, 07:37 AM // 07:37

You don't have to. :P

Sytherek · Oct 07, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

annoying >_< had valor filled up, now have to go work on 11 more weps *sigh*

Why? If your monument is full, why add more?

Skye Marin · Oct 07, 2010, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by Sytherek

Why? If your monument is full, why add more?

I am very confident that the amount of points you gain depends on how many things of what rarities are in your Hall of Monuments.

If a player could get maximum points for simply filling the number of display spots in the HoM, that would be too easy.

It's easy to see that registering Obsidian armor should be worth more points than any other, so why shouldn't a player be able to register and receive points for all the armors they can find, instead of just a "top 5".

Arduin · Oct 07, 2010, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Sytherek

Why? If your monument is full, why add more?

Because 11 weapons in Valor might give you 11 points, but 33 might give you 33 points? As long as Anet won't release the HoM - > GW2 article, we just don't know when we can stop being OCD about the HoM.

Iuris · Oct 07, 2010, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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I am very confident that the amount of points you gain depends on how many things of what rarities are in your Hall of Monuments.

Strange - I am very confident there will be a maximum limit of how much one can get from the HoM entries, capping at one full HoM.

Why? Because rewards need to be created, and the more achievements are needed, the fewer people will get that reward - ie same work fewer happy people (and more people unhappy with those who have more than themselves)

We'll see when details are published.

BrettM · Oct 07, 2010, 05:36 PM // 17:36

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

It's easy to see that registering Obsidian armor should be worth more points than any other

Call me blind, then, because I don't see it. I don't expect any more points for my FoW set than for any other set. In fact, I think I put relatively more effort and expense into my first elite set on the account than into the FoW set, because I was much poorer and less skilled at the time. Getting the cash and mats for that first set took a lot more work under those circumstances than yawning my way through FoW shard farming and spending the cash from the other loot on ectos.

Skye Marin · Oct 07, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20

How about this:

It's easy to see a Green Miniature being worth more points than a White Miniature.

If you have a full HoM, that's fine, but I really doubt that having only 5 statues in your Monument of Honor (equal to beating the 3 campaigns on Normal Mode and any two special dungeons) will give you the exact same GW2 rewards as earning GWAMM, with a boatload of qualifying PvP titles (r8 Hero, r3 gladiator, r3 Champion, etc).

I can't be alone here.

To put it another way:

Why would I want to complete all 53 monuments if I only need to do the easiest 5 for the exact same rewards?

BenjZee · Oct 07, 2010, 07:36 PM // 19:36

I was aware of having these weapons for use as weapons and not to make a pretty statue out of. I was also unaware of anyone forcing me to gain them all. Though i use them anyway to kill monsters.

Xenomortis · Oct 07, 2010, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

Why would I want to complete all 53 monuments if I only need to do the easiest 5 for the exact same rewards?

I think it's sad when a materialistic* reward is all that drives people to complete challenges and actually play a game.
If you don't find a game fun or engaging in some way, then why bother at all?
Perhaps I'm just greatly disconnected from the rest of the playerbase, but I seem to recall grind was something GW was not supposed to really be about.

*as material as any in-game virtual reward can be.

Skye Marin · Oct 08, 2010, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

I think it's sad when a materialistic* reward is all that drives people to complete challenges and actually play a game.
If you don't find a game fun or engaging in some way, then why bother at all?
Perhaps I'm just greatly disconnected from the rest of the playerbase, but I seem to recall grind was something GW was not supposed to really be about.

*as material as any in-game virtual reward can be.

If you want to call me names and make assumptions about my character that's fine. I've set my own personal goals in the game, based on what I feel is most achievable and what would be the most fun.

I cannot understand how some people can reason that all of the GW2 HoM rewards will be given to those who do very little compared to those who have done everything.

I do feel that people who do more should get more. I'm not alone.

Many people here are questioning why do more when they believe they've already maxed things out. I'm simply sharing the belief that simply maxing out a display's capacity does not correlate to maxing out all reward benefits.

Xenomortis · Oct 08, 2010, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

If you want to call me names and make assumptions about my character that's fine. I've set my own personal goals in the game, based on what I feel is most achievable and what would be the most fun.

My post wasn't meant as a personal attack, it wasn't intended to offend or insult. I'm slightly sorry you seemed to take it that way, but I was struggling to think of a way to express my opinion.

In effect, what I'm saying is this:

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

Why would I want to complete all 53 monuments if I only need to do the easiest 5 for the exact same rewards?

For the sake of doing it.

Skye Marin · Oct 08, 2010, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Let me ask the flip question:

For those who feel content with a full capacity HoM, why are you stopping there?

Wouldn't it make more sense to criticize those who don't feel the need to complete any more of their HoM if they believe they've already reached the maximum reward possible? Why stop if they're claiming to doing it for fun or the sake of doing it?

armandorsx · Oct 08, 2010, 03:35 AM // 03:35

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

If you want to call me names and make assumptions about my character that's fine. I've set my own personal goals in the game, based on what I feel is most achievable and what would be the most fun.

I cannot understand how some people can reason that all of the GW2 HoM rewards will be given to those who do very little compared to those who have done everything.

I do feel that people who do more should get more. I'm not alone.

Many people here are questioning why do more when they believe they've already maxed things out. I'm simply sharing the belief that simply maxing out a display's capacity does not correlate to maxing out all reward benefits.

You are not alone! if someone with 20 white mini pets worth around 20k for all, get the same rewards than my 80 mini pets, i will QQ hard! if anet reward ppl for getting GWAMM (30 titles) when only 5 are displayable, then they should reward ppl with 10 armor, all heros, 2 or 3 weapons sets and 60 minis (example).

dav21 · Oct 08, 2010, 04:47 AM // 04:47

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Originally Posted by Yol

What's the likelihood of new weapon skins being rewards for this that can also be added to the HoM?

Well if Im thinking correctly it might be like this:

HoM weapon set Prophecies: Opperssor's Items
HoM weapon set Factions: TBA ("Crysis in Cantha")
HoM weapon set Nightfall: Tormented Items
HoM weapon set EotN: Destroyer Items

If this assumption is correct we might see another set of items added to HoM.

BrettM · Oct 08, 2010, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

How about this:

It's easy to see a Green Miniature being worth more points than a White Miniature.

Call me blind, then, because I don't see it. I popped a birthday present and a green mini jumped out. In what sense did I "do more" to earn a higher reward than someone else who got a white mini the same way? Both characters existed exactly the same amount of time -- one year. The guy who got the white mini may very well have accomplished a lot more during that year than I did.

Or maybe I got my green mini from Nick in return for a handful of charr hides that took 10 minutes to farm. Is that really an accomplishment deserving of extra reward? I deserve points for having my level 20 character wand a bunch of level 5 charr to death? Wooo! Leet player on the loose!